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Breaking Barriers: John Blake on Racial Reconciliation

2 years ago

In this conversation on race, Simma talks with John Blake, a well-known author, and journalist with CNN. He reports on race, religion, and politics. His most recent book is, More Than I Imagined: What a Black Man Discovered About the White Mother He Never Knew

John Blake's story begins with a familiar narrative of a biracial child struggling to find their place in a racially divided America. But just when you think you know where the story is headed, a surprising twist throws everything into question. What happens when John meets his estranged white family members as an adult? Will he reject them as he did with his white heritage? Or will he embrace them, leading to a transformative journey of empathy and forgiveness? Join us as we explore John's journey of racial reconciliation and the power of relationships in bridging seemingly impossible divides.

 

Why Race Is Important

Race is a central theme not only in the personal lives of many individuals but also in the larger context of American society. Understanding the importance of race requires recognizing that it shapes people's experiences, opportunities, and challenges in significant ways. By talking about race and valuing the various perspectives and experiences that come from different racial backgrounds, people can grow in empathy, cultivate meaningful relationships, and foster a more equitable and just society. In the conversation between Simma Lieberman and John Blake, John shares that his own experiences growing up as a biracial child with a white mother and black father has had a profound impact on his life, shaping both his personal struggles and his professional pursuits as a journalist reporting on race relations in America. He emphasizes that race is a key element in understanding and addressing social issues and that acknowledging and embracing diversity can ultimately bring people together and create a better society.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Realize the potential of building bridges across racial divides for a more inclusive society.
  • Grasp the impact of compassion and pardoning in breaking the shackles of prejudiced thinking.
  • Appreciate how knowledge can be a catalyst for change in combating racism.
  • Understand the intricacies of racial outlooks and the space for growth and transformation.
  • Appreciate the value of purposeful diversity and interaction in minimizing bias.

 

The resources and solutions mentioned in this episode are:

  • Purchase John Blake's book More Than I Imagined: What a Black Man Discovered About the White Mother He Never Knew
  • Read John Blake's articles on CNN about race, religion, and politics
  • Participate in Simma Lieberman's facilitated dialogues to bring people together across race
  • Practice empathy and forgiveness towards individuals who may hold racist attitudes or beliefs
  • Read books by authors like Ibram X. Kendi and Jon Blake to educate yourself on race and racism
  • Take action towards creating a successful multiracial, multireligious democracy by working towards racial justice and equality in your community.

 

The key moments in this episode are

00:00:02 - Introduction

00:01:53 - Why Race Is Important

00:03:54 - Discovering His Mother's Race

00:05:49 - Meeting His Mentally Ill Mother

00:11:02 - Lessons About Empathy and Forgiveness

00:15:52 - The Importance of Relationships in Combating Racism

00:17:47 - The Need for Intentional Diversity

00:19:19 - Telling Optimistic Stories

00:21:57 - The Continual Conversion Process

00:26:45 - Creating Opportunities for Meaningful Contact

00:30:28 - Importance of Diversity in Communities

00:34:52 - The Capacity for Change in Racism

00:37:57 - Cancel Culture and the Importance of Listening

00:41:01 - Personal Music and Book Recommendations

00:42:08 - Recommended Readings and Eric Liu's Work

 

Guest Bio

John Blake is an award-winning journalist at CNN.com, the online site for CNN and an author. He has been honored by the Associated Press, the Society of Professional Journalists, the American Academy of Religion, the National Association of Black Journalists, the Religion Communicators Council and with the GLAAD Media Award. He was most recently the winner of the 2019 Sigma Delta Chi awards for Excellence in Journalism for his online columns on race and politics. His 2020 essay, “There’s One Epidemic We May Never Find a Cure For: Fear of Black Men in Public Spaces,” was recently selected by Bustle Digital Group as one of the 11 best essays on racism and police violence. The other authors on that list included Ta-Nehisi Coates, Ibram X. Kendi, and Roxane Gay. Blake’s book, “Children of the Movement,” was a finalist for the 2005 NAACP Image Awards in the Outstanding Literary Work Non-Fiction category and a finalist for the Gustavus Myers Outstanding Book Awards. He has spoken at high schools, colleges, symposiums, and in documentaries about topics such as race, religion, and politics. Blake is a native of Baltimore, Maryland, and a graduate of Howard University.

 

Host Bio

Simma Lieberman, The Inclusionist helps leaders create inclusive cultures. She is a consultant, speaker and facilitator and the host of the podcast, “Everyday Conversations on Race for Everyday People.”

Contact Simma@SimmaLieberman.com

Go to www.simmalieberman.com and www.raceconvo.com for more information

Simma is a member of and inspired by the global organization IAC (Inclusion Allies Coalition) 

 

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Why We Must Bridge Divides: A Conversation on Inclusive Leadership with Sally Helgesen & Mercedes Martin

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Join Everyday Conversations on Race for Everyday People, the podcast that brings real talk and real change to the forefront.

In a society where race, culture, and identity are often sources of division, bridging the conversation on race and equity is imperative. By fostering open and honest dialogues, organizations can create safe spaces for employees to share their experiences and perspectives, ultimately leading to a more inclusive and equitable workplace.

Simma Lieberman, Sally Helgesen, and Mercedes Martin explored the importance of bridging the conversation on race and equity during their discussion. They acknowledged the challenges of fostering these dialogues and shared their experiences in navigating the complexities of identity, race, and belonging.

Sally reflected on her close relationships with African Americans throughout her life and the impact of their struggles on shaping her understanding of race and equity.

Mercedes, an Afro-Latina woman from Cuba, spoke about her purpose in helping organizations tackle diversity and inclusion by shifting mindsets and embracing collaboration.

 

In this episode, you will be able to:

● Discover the significance of uniting as a team to create an all-embracing workplace environment.

•Embrace the benefits of acknowledging various personal histories and experiences.

• Acquire tools for seeking common ground and defusing challenging situations to resolve conflicts and misunderstandings

● Explore the expansion of diversity beyond gender, focusing on race and values.

● Recognize the importance of appreciating different backgrounds and experiences.

● Understand the role of individual change in sustaining diversity and inclusion among leaders.

● Learn how to identify commonalities and navigate through difficult situations to overcome division and polarization.

During the episode, Sally Helgesen and Mercedes Martin shared their personal experiences and emphasized the importance of fostering a sense of belonging within the workplace. They discussed the power of embracing people's diverse backgrounds, experiences, and perspectives in order to build stronger connections and more effective workforces. Simma Lieberman highlighted the need to support one another and rise together in the pursuit of inclusion and equity, sharing insights from both Sally's and Mercedes's experiences in the field.

Sally, Mercedes and Simma discuss the urgency of sustainable change and emphasize that in order to sustain change, it is necessary to start from within. They talk about the importance of transforming oneself along with the organization and how change management needs to involve everyone in the organization. They also talk about the fear of leadership in addressing diversity and inclusion, especially pertaining to race, and how it needs to start with a clear why and work with the leadership in understanding the need for change.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:01:13 - Introduction of Sally Helgesen   

00:02:26 - Introduction of Mercedes Martin  

00:06:49 - Sally Helgesen's motivation for writing "Rising Together"

00:09:53 - Introduction of Mercedes Martin's background and cultural identity

00:19:07 - Creating a Culture of Inclusion

00:22:23 - The Importance of Inclusive Leadership    

00:24:10 - Bridging the Conversation on Race and Equity

00:27:20 - Multiple Identities and Belonging   

00:35:33 - The Importance of Self-reflection

00:37:24 - Importance of Authentic Leadership for Inclusion

00:39:05 - Characteristics of Inclusive Leadership  

00:42:43 - Sustainable Change: Individual and Systemic Change

00:48:00 - Inhabiting the Middle Amidst Polarization      

 

 

Guest Bio

Sally Helgesen is a renowned expert on women's leadership and an internationally bestselling author, speaker, and leadership coach. Honored in Forbes as the world's premier expert on women's leadership, she has been inducted into the Thinkers 50 Hall of Fame, which recognizes influential leaders in the field of leadership worldwide. Ranked number three among the world's thought leaders by Global Gurus, Sally has recently released her book, Rising Together, which offers practical ways to build more inclusive relationships, teams, and workplaces.

 

Mercedes Martin is a native Spanish-speaking international executive coach and consultant from Cuba with a wealth of experience in global leadership, diversity, and sustainability development. Working with Fortune 50 companies such as PepsiCo, Proctor and Gamble, Shell Oil, and Kellogg's, Mercedes has helped senior leaders, women, and people of color rise in their careers. As the founder of Mercedes Martin and Company, she continues to focus on supporting leadership in rewiring their mindset and embracing conversations on diversity, equity, and belonging.

 

Host Bio

Simma Lieberman, The Inclusionist helps leaders create inclusive cultures. She is a consultant, speaker and facilitator and the host of the podcast, “Everyday Conversations on Race for Everyday People.”

Contact Simma@SimmaLieberman.com

Go to www.simmalieberman.com and www.raceconvo.com for more information

Simma is a member of and inspired by the global organization IAC (Inclusion Allies Coalition)

Connect with me:
Instagram
Facebook
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Twitter
LinkedIn
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Website

 

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Label: Def Jam Recordings
Producer: The Bomb Squad

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