Lewis Wallace, female-assigned at birth, wanted to transition in the direction of maleness—in some ways. He shifted his pronouns, had surgery, starting taking testosterone. None of that meant he wanted to embrace everything that our culture associates with “masculinity.” Story written and reported by Lewis Wallace, with co-hosts John Biewen and Celeste Headlee.
Music by Alex Weston, Evgueni and Sacha Galperine, and Kevin
MacLeod. Music and production help from Joe Augustine at Narrative Music.
Patrick Tindana nd Simma, “The Inclusionist,”
Patrick Tindana and Simma, “The Inclusionist” in an everyday conversation on race.
Key topics:
Hear the history and motivation behind Everyday Conversations on Race.
What it was like to be the only white student at a Hispanic college, and why it’s not the same as being the only person of color in an all-white school.
Why it’s more important for white people to take action to eliminate racism today than to spend time feeling guilty.
The intersection, overlap and questions related to race, color, ethnicity and other differences. How skin color can determine health outcomes, access to services and treatment by others.
Too often when people feel uncomfortable around people who are different, they ignore them and people of color become almost invisible.
There are different ways to talk about race. Some people relate to intellectual, academic conversations like Robin DeAngelo, and other people connect more on emotional levels or specific examples like Beau from the 5th Column. Both ways can prompt listeners, particularly white people to take action.
While racism in systemic and institutional, it’s created and perpetuated by individual people. It will take individual people to change those systems and processes, and no one can do it alone.
Patrick breaks down the differences in understanding and experiencing racism in the US between a Black person born in the US and Black people coming from Africa.
He talks about the exhaustion of dealing with racism every day, and knowing that people of color are getting detained for selling water, harassed for speaking Spanish, or babysitting for white kids.
Patrick and Simma share their diversity heroes who have stepped up and spoken out against racist actions, and diversity zeroes who have harassed people of color for speaking Spanish, called police on the Black man babysitting two white kids, or going entering his own apartment.
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Everyday Conversations on Race with Charmaine McClarie and David Casey
African-Americans in the Executive Suite
Guests: Charmaine McClarie, senior executive coach and David Casey, Chief Diversity Officer of Fortune 30 pharmaceutical innovation company
Charmaine McClarie and David Casey share their experience in meeting the challenge of racism and bias as African- American as well as provide sage advice to other African-Americans and everyone else who wants to reach the highest levels of success.
Conversation topics include:
How slavery and the history of slavery courses through the veins and DNA of people whose ancestors were slaves. The history and trauma of slavery and it’s aftermath can never be ignored and must be addressed to move forward as a nation.
Charmaine shares her experience feeling the power of going to Africa and seeing her original heritage.
“People need to know their heritage and their identity.”
Being African-American and meeting the challenges of advancing to higher levels
Both Charmaine and David spoke about not being comfortable in their own skin early on their career journeys. They were worried about how they would be seen because they both experienced usually being the only Black persons in the room. David said he wondered, ”Will they think I represent all Black people, and what assumptions do they have?”
Their advice today to African-American and other people of color who aspire to success is “Don’t waste your time getting comfortable. Be comfortable now. Own your narrative and identity.”
Hear how both Charmaine McClarie and David Casey took charge of their careers, began speaking out and taking risks, and having conversations on race with people who don’t look like them.
Listen to this episode of “Everyday Conversations on Race,” to learn how to advance through barriers, racial bias, and embrace your identity no matter who you are.
Was case then and cast now and be the only one
More power when you walk in the room and see other people who look like you.
Who do you ask
Ask people who look like you
What do you need to know
What is the barrier
What are assumptons people might make- so people can make introducitons
Knew early on and she needed to be ready to embrace her blackness or she was walking into room with a deficit
What are the contributions that Black people have made
Where did I get my narrative- my grandparents lived a good life and perservered
Didn’t have her first name on card so wouldn’t make assumption
What are you looking for- you’re comfortable or not
People underestimate based on assumptions- sure it happens-
Before linkedin- “didn’t realize you were Black or African American” I’d be a billionaire
Taught you have to outperform your peers
Back to “articulate”
As person moving up, she says that people who are not Black are coindescending- they don’t see her as who she is
When that happens ask why HR instead of CFO
What experiences do you want me to have?
How will we partner together do
Getting people to support you
Get witnesses so people know what you’re doing
Who are your advocates
If someone has a limited view of who you are, are you willing to see me differently?
Who have been your advocates?
What kind of support have you had?
CDO of 2 Fortune 30 companies so he met the CEO
Spoke that the organizations were serious about diversity
Ability to meet with the CEO
Spent time in interview process building trust
Sponsors and champions
Be as equal as middle management where everything tends to converge
Often POC looking for mentors- but just 5% are people of color so good chance a mentor will not be a person of color.
People make their own assumptions
No one gets it right all the time
We all make mistakes and we can learn
Every time we take a risk, we can learn
Why did you think that- teaching moment
Your narrative is your power
Who you are
Website
Mcclariegoup.com
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David has served as a Chief Diversity Officer for two Fortune 30 corporations, positioning them both as top companies in the country for strategic diversity management.
Active in the community, David has served and/or currently serves in an advisory and board of director capacity for several national and local organizations, including the American Lung Association, the American Society on Aging, Disability:IN, Advisory the Greater Providence Chamber of Commerce, Skills for Rhode Island‘s Future, Year Up, the Urban League. He also serves on the advisory boards for the Human Capital Executive Research Board, the i4CP Chief Diversity Officer Board and the National Association of African Americans in HR.
David has been published or cited in Forbes, the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, The Atlantic, Diversity Inc. Magazine, Drug Store News, Profiles in Diversity Journal, Diversity Global and Diversity Executive, and has appeared on the television series, American Profiles.
David holds a Bachelor of Science degree in business administration from Indiana Wesleyan University and is a veteran of the United States Marine Corps,here he served for 8 years, including Operation Desert Storm.
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Charmaine McClarie is a C-suite advisor, keynote speaker, executive coach and executive presence authority who helps leaders have their best year ever. She has worked with leaders in 27 industries across five continents. Her clients include top executives from Coca-Cola, Gilead Sciences, Humana, Johnson & Johnson, MasterCard, Starbucks and T-Mobile.
For more than two decades, 98% of Charmaine’s clients are promoted within 18 months. For CEOs, that might mean a promotion to corporate directorship. For other senior leaders, that might mean a promotion from SVP to EVP or even CEO.
Charmaine works predominately with C-suite leaders and executives with demonstrated readiness to be in the C-suite, coaching them on leadership acumen, communications ability and executive presence.
Charmaine and her work have been profiled in People, Forbes, Harvard Management Update, The London Times and The New York Times.
She is on the faculty as a leadership and communications expert at the University of Missouri Kansas City Bloch School of Management, EMBA program, and is a visiting lecturer at the Smith College Executive Education program.
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American history—law, economics, culture—has built different notions of masculinity (and femininity) for people of varying races and ethnicities. A trip through a century of pop culture and the stereotyped images that white supremacy has manufactured and attached to Asian and African American men. With scholars Tim Yu and Mark Anthony Neal and co-hosts John Biewen and Celeste Headlee.
Music by Alex Weston, Evgueni and Sacha Galperine. Music and production help from Joe Augustine at Narrative Music.
Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choicesConversations on Race- Perspectives from a black Ghanaian and a white Hungarian
Patrick Tindana and Peter Kovacs: a Ghanaian and a Hungarian share stories and perspectives on race as immigrants to the US
A cross-race conversation about race with Patrick Tindana a black African from Ghana and Peter Kovacs, a white Hungarian
Key topics:
Why Patrick Tindana had to leave Ghana for being gay
What it’s like to be from a country where everyone “looks the same” and move to the US
An African perspective on how experiencing race in the US
How Patrick and Peter developed relationships with people of different races, and cultures in the US
Why it’s important to talk about race
Recognizing and understanding the challenges of talking about race with people who are different and people who have been traumatized
Which immigrants have more privilege and security in the US and which ones are most endangered
Why lack of empathy for people from different cultures and race cause some people to dehumanize others
Hope for the future and bringing people together
Cultural intelligence and why it’s essential to get along in today’s world
The role of sharing food and stories can play to bring people together and find surprising connections
The role that culturally intelligent white people can play to disrupt racism and discrimination
Using privilege to start conversations across race and other differences
Intentionally seeking out and engaging with people who are different
Recognizing trauma amongst different groups
Tips for having cross-race conversations about race/the need to listen and validate experiences of others
What white people do to speak up about racism
Guest is Hassan Zee and he talks about life and difficulties he felt in Pakistan and moving in another country. Main topics are Race and Equity.
• How Hassan Zee handled racism when he came to the US
• The need to stop generalizing all Asians. There is no one culture throughout Asia
• How one person can make a difference in the race conversation.
• Hear how an older White woman named Julie Halvorsen had a major impact on the life and career or Hassan Zee when he moved here from Pakistan
• Why issues of gender, women's empowerment, and equity are important to Hassan Zee and people in Pakistan.
• Why seeing people's humanity across race is crucial to collaborating and helping people be successful
Several years after Janey was sexually assaulted by her former boyfriend, Mathew, she told some of her closest friends, and her mother, what Mathew had done. Janey was so troubled by her loved ones’ responses, or lack thereof, that she went back to them years later to record conversations about it all. In this episode: Janey’s story, and philosopher Kate Manne, who coined the term “himpathy” in her 2017 book, *Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny. *With co-hosts John Biewen and Celeste Headlee.
To hear more of Janey Williams’ story and the conversations she had with friends, check out her podcast, "This Happened", available on most podcast apps and at thishappenedpodcast.com.
Music by Alex Weston, Evgueni and Sacha Galperine, and Kevin MacLeod. Music and production help from Joe Augustine at Narrative Music.
Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choicesJewish, Orthodox Rabbi and African-American, MaNishtana enters the race convo as a voice of young Jewish leaders who speak out on issues of race, racial justice and religion in the Jewish community and beyond. He shares his experiences, perspective and Jewish philosophy with us in all of these areas. MaNishtana is a speaker, blogger, screenwriter and author of two books. He is the author of “Thoughts From a Unicorn, 100% Black, 100% Jewish, 100% Safe Episode highlights with MaNishtana:
In Episode 9 Guest is LeRon Barton
Do nations fight wars because men are naturally violent? Or do societies condition men to embrace violence so they’ll fight the nation’s wars?
Along with co-hosts John Biewen and Celeste Headlee, this episode features reporting by Barry Lam of the Hi-Phi Nation podcast, with scholars Joshua Goldstein of American University, Tom Digby of Springfield College, and Graham Parsons of the United States Military Academy, aka West Point.
Music by Alex Weston, and Evgueni and Sacha Galperine. Music and production help from Joe Augustine at Narrative Music. Song fragment, “Men,” by Loudon Wainwright III.
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